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Rambunctious Garden

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Rambunctious Garden:  Saving Nature In a Post-Wild World by Emma Marris

A fascinating ecosystems in the world as it actually exists.  The one where elk chose to give birth next to highways because of the lesser number of bears.

All the difficulties in the classic model of an ecosystem that stays the same forever with interactions.  Even the addition of "disturbance" with the theory that the forest could, say, have regions regrowing from forest fire was not enough.  There are forests that look primordial, but have trees that could grow for a millennium, where none of them are older than 700 years -- when the climate changed.

Whites radically changed the environment of the Americas without even trying to settle.  The diseases they brought killed maybe 95% of the population, and that produced enormous impacts.  The orchards they grew of nut trees went back to the wild.  The enormous herd of buffalo that Lewis and Clark reported were probably there because their biggest predator had been taken out.  Not that the Americas had not suffered massive changes from them before.  Their arrival brought about the extinction of the megafauna.  Most of those we still have came from Asia at the same time.  Forest managed to grow much more widely without .  Then, most other arrivals of  humans saw the megafauna died out.  New Zealand  -- the ancestors gave up their chickens to hunt such birds as the flightless and enormous moa.  Then they worked their way through the other hapless birds, and in due course found themselves facing serious hunger issues.  Giving up chickens had not been wise.

This produces interesting arguments:  ecologists who argue that feral burros and mustangs are wonderful additions because they revert the Southwest to the pre-human ecosystem, which did have equines.  At least as well as can be done.  Some want to introduce camels, elephants, cheetahs as substitutes, too, and if people object to cheetahs -- why, Africans have to live with large, dangerous predators for ecological reasons.  Why should North Americans be exempt?

Goes into the subject of those innocuous islands that get so wrecked when they get contact.  Birds that have lost the ability to fly.  Roses and raspberries that lose their thorns.  Mammals, like those in Australia, that got stupid because Australia was so harsh that being smart was too much a drain on the system.  (This woke the world-building theorist in me.  I wonder how large they could be.  New Zealand with all its flightless birds was pretty big.  Is there a theoretical bound before the ecosystem turns up nature red in tooth and claw?  Could you have an innocuous idyllic planet?  Especially with terraforming?)

And the marvelous novel ecosystems of invasive plants.  Ther was one Pacific island where two birds and a bat were saved from extinction, spurred by the removal of native trees, by people planting exotic trees.  Which grew faster than native ones, which probably would not have grown fast enough to save them.  How exotic birds in Hawaii are doing most of the fruit seed dispersal, and its pine forests often have more diversity and richer understories than the native trees.  An ecologist arguing for tantan trees on the grounds that the native understory needs the canopy they provide.

And many more fascinating ecological topics.

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asakiyume
Jan. 8th, 2013 02:13 am (UTC)
When people talk about native flora and fauna, I do always wonder how far back they're setting the bar. Like you say, there used to be horses and then they died out, so does that mean that when horses come back, they're not an invasive species? I think of my brother-in-law, who for a time was employed in England protecting heath habitat from invasive bracken... and yet heath itself is a habitat that only came into being when the long-ago English cut down the native trees. So the habitat he's protecting is the result of disturbance--but long enough ago that it counts as natural.

marycatelli
Jan. 8th, 2013 02:18 am (UTC)
Yes! The conflicts about how far back to set the bar are a lively discussion.
headnoises
Jan. 8th, 2013 05:12 am (UTC)
*grumble* Hate that "95% death rate" thing because it's so flimsy-- there's no evidence (per the original theory guy himself, on Coast to Coast) except for the theory saying it must have been that way and the evidence just decomposed.... At one point I spent a while digging up the possible evidence of virgin soil epidemics in people having ludicrously high death rates, and the ONE place where a massive death rate was supported (based on more than "there was a camp that use to have like ten folks when I was a kid, and one summer it was empty" stories) was an island that was also picking fights with the Spanish. No kidding, the island was deserted when they'd been sickly before the Spanish showed up, they caught stuff from the Spanish, and then got killed or enslaved. (not counting any that may have just left)
Not surprised it's popular, it justifies so much angst , but oy.

Thinking on it, a lot of the stuff for ecology is filling in the story that supports what you want to do.... This canine is a wolf because the theory says they're a wolf, and never mind that their DNA says they're mostly coyote, or the "coyotes" to the north of Seattle that look and act like wolves, and are some ludicrously high percent wolf genetically, but are called "coyotes" when they kill college girls. (In defense, when they started DNA testing red wolves, they found that they're a coyote/wolf cross-- just like different dog breeds, they've got a range of social actions, but they're fully cross-able.)

Wish folks would just be honest, admit that they're not really putting stuff the way it's "supposed" to be, and work on designing what to do to get the results they actually want with minimum fuss and risk. Guess that's a vain wish, it'd require actually stating goals and making arguments for why it's a good idea.

Gad, I need a drink.
marycatelli
Jan. 8th, 2013 04:26 pm (UTC)
I think you would like this book.
headnoises
Jan. 8th, 2013 10:58 pm (UTC)
I'd like the time to do it justice!
headnoises
Jan. 8th, 2013 11:00 pm (UTC)
That said, my library has it-- at least I can try!
marycatelli
Jan. 9th, 2013 12:16 am (UTC)
That's where I found the copy I read -- hope you enjoy it!
headnoises
Jan. 9th, 2013 12:57 am (UTC)
I usually check out the books you suggest.

Just usually need to be able to focus for longer than I have at any one point....
marycatelli
Jan. 9th, 2013 01:28 am (UTC)
Nice to know.
marycatelli
Jan. 9th, 2013 12:15 am (UTC)
It's fairly short.
headnoises
Jan. 26th, 2013 05:27 am (UTC)
Thus far, very rough going. I'm at my folks' place, so it's harder-- this gal doesn't seem to have considered that there might be an entire class of people she might want to talk to, and a local weed board could put her in touch with them....

My folks, and their folks, and my godfather, and...well, ALL of the good ranchers manage their range by dealing with all the plants and animals around. Even the forest service rents out land to cattlemen to keep the plants healthy.

Perhaps she gets into it later, but simply not being local isn't enough to make a plant a high priority pest plant in land management-- it has to actually hurt local plants and animals.

It's hard to describe right, but...it's a bit like what I imagine my mom feels like when I do my sleep deprived gushing on what it's like to have a new baby, and my ideas for how to make stuff work. (I can hear my mom's responses, though-- the book doesn't listen worth a dang.)

Still interesting, and I kinda hope she knows this stuff and was just aiming at the enviro-nut folks, but just a kinda slow read. *grin*
marycatelli
Jan. 26th, 2013 07:51 pm (UTC)
She does go into the marvelous stuff that exotics can do. They can even save endangered local stuff.
headnoises
Jan. 26th, 2013 08:13 pm (UTC)
But does she stick with the mistaken idea that nobody thought of this before? That we're all just hating on non-native plants the way that the psycho environmentalists do?
(A significant portion of our pest animals and plants got here that way. IIRC, kudzu was brought in to prevent erosion.)
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